Bluebell Banter

Yes I am back the same Lodge road 4 just spelt differently as I had trouble logging on I think Yatesman must of banned me for speaking the truth and talking sense LOL!!! I am sorry to the people who have been asking me where my next post is, You know who you are!!!

I have also waited to see how the season panned out before posting again, As after being accused of sniping from afar and not backing the team that were playing so well I thought I would wait and see what those same people now think. Very interesting indeed!!!

All I have read in the past few weeks is people on here now saying the team weren't playing that well, Perhaps Mogg wasn't the man for the job and maybe it wasn't such a good idea to sack Thommo and Barlass. Well the penny finally has dropped but all a little bit to late unfortunatly!!!

After sacking the most successful management team in the club's history, The committee appoint someone without an assistant, Without clearly any ideas of how to get players in to make us stronger and it didn't take a genius to realise players would leave when the awful decision was made. So the question still remains WHY did they do it??? What was the plan??? I think there was no plan and it was clearly a shocking decision that has cost the club dear and put it back 3 years minimum!!! When the better players leave in the summer, Who is going to replace them???Who is going to be manager??? I have a feeling they don't have a clue???

Here's an idea why don't they do the right thing re appoint Thommo and Barlass and let them get us out of the mess they created and have a big push for promotion next season???

I somehow doubt this will happen as Wacko and his merry men are probably quite happy we have dropped down a division and will appoint someone without any thought, Plan or ambition!!!

I'll see you on the far post

I hope not!!!

I can assure you that I haven't prevented you from posting.

I welcome all views on here within the usual guidelines that exist on all forums.

The reason that you were accused of sniping from the sidelines is because that is what you were doing. So accused and convicted I'd say, but again, that's your perogative, just not the way the majority of Yate fans chose to conduct themselves.

Yate played some good football under Moggy.......fact. They also played some shockingly poor football too. But you wouldn't know because you weren't there. Although some think you were at the Bedford match.

It's quite funny that you've come on here trying to paint a picture of you being the lone voice in condemning the sacking of Thommo.

Everyone on here and every Yate fan I spoke to that doesn't post on here was against the sacking of Thommo and the way it was done. Unlike you they didn't turn their back on the club.

For that they are to be commended and you are to be justifiably derided.

I'm not saying people don't agree with some of the things you say but I doubt you'll find anyone who agrees with your actions. The first rat to leave the sinking ship who then returns to gloat and say " I told you the ship was sinking".

We all knew the ship was sinking.........we just had the balls to stay with the ship and try and keep it afloat.

So my question to you is.............Are you going to carry on sniping from the sidelines ? or perhaps you'll tell us exactly what YOU intend to do to help this club get back on its feet .

This being my first year following Yate, I have to say it has certainly been an experience. If you followed all of Yate's league games then you would have seen 145 goals, The cup games were just as exciting with a penalty shoot-out as well. We've also seen a managerial sacking and three 2-1 wins over the mangoes. Relegation apart, you don't get much more entertainment for the money.

Following Yate this year has never been dull thats for sure.

Whatever the politics of the badly managed sacking of the manager by the board, the club tried to moved on and the decision didn't work for them.

We need an early appointment of next seasons manager so that he can start preparing for what will probably be just as difficult a season as this was. Yes we will lose players, yes the attendances will be a bit less, yes the quality of football will be a bit lower, but we do have a chance to bounce straight back up if the board react in the right way.

Should Thommo be asked back ? I don't know, but we need a manager with experience at this level and who knows how to get the most from a limited budget. Mogg has performed much the same as Thommo in results but he has taken us down and was not able to get the quality of player required for the fight we had on the budget we had. Should Dempsey be given the chance?
Is there anyone any good who would want to work with the current board?

I will also continue to snipe and comment, but then if you pays your money to watch and get behind the 11 on the park, you have a good enough reason in my book to pass comment. If you don't pay your money, you ain't got a leg to stand on.

Anyone know if there will be a public meeting open to supporters to talk about plans for next season? I read somewhere that's what Mangotsfield did.

For me, the supporters website is much more interesting to read than the club's website. There's always an interesting comment to read, irrespective of whether you agree/disagree with it, whereas the club's website is very factual, mostly giving games reports.

I'd like to see more communication from Yate Town management (off field and on) on the club website.

I think Mogg made a mistake in being so openly critical of the team in the Gazette - 'it's not my fault it's the teams' - paraphrased. From my point of view we're all in it together, manager, team, supporters, chairman and committee. Fine, be critical of the team (behind closed doors), and in a constructive manner, but don't do it in public. Mogg has got to get behind the team, his team.

Regarding the sacking of Tommo, it may have been a bad one, but don't the chairman and committee have the right to make those decisions? It happens up and down the land.

Regarding 'Lodge Road 4' - I'm curious - are there 3 others out there? Not sure we hear from them. I think it's a shame that you're not out there with us supporting the team, but I can understand your disillusionment.

Bottom line to remember is .. it's just a game

Like the Lodge Road Four I've been biding my time.

Now the season is over I think it's fair to say the football club needs a big shake up.

Too many hangers on on the committee who don't contribute.

Too many people involved with the club just to have a good day out on a Saturday.

Too many people with too little to contribute.

As for the Lodge Road Four, does anyone know who they are ? My guess is that the assumption that they are supporters is all wrong. I think the Lodge Road Four are

THOMMO
LEE
CHENNY
COURTY

Any other guesses?

Nice try Y8fan - you couldn't be further from the truth - keep guessing.

What I will say is that the Lodge Road 4 are "true" supporters, who will ALWAYS follow Yate.

We may have our own way of dealing with the sacking of Thommo etc etc but we do care, and want nothing more than a great season in 2009/2010.

Personally I have been to see Yate since Thommo's sacking, but have not made the usual effort as I almost know what the game will be like before it starts - and Mogg does/did nothing to inspire me. Not having a pop at Mogg as he was in a very difficult situation trying to follow the sacking of a Yate legend, nevertheless we are relegated and have to try and deal with this the best we can.

As for idea's, I have just the two to start with - Get Thommo back, and lets get a new committee who live in the real world !!!!

Aha!!!

Now I know who the Lodge Road Four are, and know they are , indeed, true supporters and the 'stay away' campaign was a genuine protest. Although you didn't stay away that much, because I saw at least one of you and sometimes a couple of you down there a few times.

Anyway, I was a bit worried that the Lodge Road Four was just someone having a gripe just to make waves, but not really a true supporter. Knowing that Goalhanger is one of the Four , I know that not to be the case.

As I said before, people aren't disagreeing with your views, the unfortunate thing about the whole affair re: Thommo and Lee is that two top YTFC men lost their jobs for nothing and in a way that I thought misrepresented the ethos I thought was present at this club.

I think Thommo and Lee would've kept us up. For a start Thommo would not have substituted Deano so readily and would have told him to get on with the game..............However, I don't think Thommo would've been so keen to play Duggan and Lacey, who have been a couple of big positives iat the end of the season

As for Jacko and the committee.................Jacko's obstinance is legendary.

He has been reported as saying he would step down if Yate get relegated....... I wonder if he's a man of his word!

It's all very well calling for various people to step down but who would take their places?
It must be a huge commitment especially balancing the books and overseeing ground maintenance.
I wonder who would be prepared to put in that level of work unpaid?

London Calling wrote:It's all very well calling for various people to step down but who would take their places?
It must be a huge commitment especially balancing the books and overseeing ground maintenance.
I wonder who would be prepared to put in that level of work unpaid?

Well, we're not really in a position to say who would take over, but that doesn't mean change shouldn't come.

No-one's saying those currently running things have to leave the club, just hand on the reins to others and find a new role.......like supporting the new chairman.
As for the unpaid work, that's never been properly organised either. I've lost count of the number of times I've offered to help out during the close season and nothing has ever really been sorted.
So I'm sure there are more willing hands than you think, but they've not really been exploited so the same people do the same things year after year and don't really include anyone new.

With regard to balancing the books..............that's another reason why fresh blood is needed with fresh ideas. We simply are not generating enough revenue.........My solution- get off your arse and raise more money. The current regime's solution-Cut Spending....That's negative and defeatist.

Having read comments on this forum may I suggest that you try and arrange some sort of dialogue with the board, perhaps via a fans forum.

We at Mangotsfield United held a forum some three weeks ago which was most worthwhile, interesting and productive.

Danny West wrote:Having read comments on this forum may I suggest that you try and arrange some sort of dialogue with the board, perhaps via a fans forum.

We at Mangotsfield United held a forum some three weeks ago which was most worthwhile, interesting and productive.

We don't have a board , we have a committee as the club is an organisation ran by it's members.

Your meeting was held before you were officially relegated, ours would be after. I'm not sure that it would be productive.

I think people attending would seek recrimination for decisions made that have failed the club. Therefore I doubt it will happen.

Probably best to see if any changes transpire and go from there.

Our fans forum was held on Wednesday 8th April when we were virtually down anyway!

The evening could easilly have been about recriminations, but that depends on the mentality of those attending.

The supporters who attended learned a great deal about where the club wants to go and the plans of the new manager.

All I will say is that after a torrid season we're moving on and looking forward, with many things taking shape for next season already.

It wouldn't be the mentality of those attending that's the issue but their frame of mind, which is slightly different.

Don't get me wrong, a forum is a good idea and one worth pursuing, I just think we probably need to wait until Moggy meets with Jacko next week and await the outcome of that meeting.

If Moggy stays on , then a forum would be a good way for him to re-start his Yate Town career and a good way for Jacko to answer his critics.

Spot on Y'man,unlike the Mangos,we are in a state of limbo and the sooner a Manager (and his assistant) is appointed the better.

Point taken though Danny,and if anyone from the Club reads this,can we please have a Forum asap after an Appointment ?